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Tuesday, November 16, 2010

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    "John Segoati" <john@medi.co.za> Nov 16 08:40PM +0200 ^
     
    From: Moses Semenya [mailto:moses@nomi.co.za]
    Sent: 16 November 2010 04:52 PM
    To: ayoob@skymo.co.za; mdluli@mweb.co.za; sipho.ngidi@standardbank.co.za;
    silasb@comutanet.co.za; mbuso.dlomo@gijima.com; jabulanis@indwerisk.co.za;
    'Songezo Mdluwa'; mgebesibango@yahoo.com; vnaidoo@calmanz.co.za;
    sabelo.ndabazandile@gmail.com; lindile@lmaqs.co.za; lumkilem@idc.co.za;
    zondo.sobs@vodamail.co.za; 'Sandile Luthuli'; jabum@primedia.co.za;
    john@medi.co.za; jngulube@munichre.com; mthamane@gmail.com;
    deong@mkash.co.za
    Subject: FW: What's a Golf Ball Worth ??
     

     

     
     
     
    The ball was in the pond on Hole 16 at Oak Crest Golf Club in Norway,
    Michigan.

     
     
    It was a brand new Titlelist with the Verso logo on it and he didn't want to
    loose it OR
    take the two stroke penalty as he was already behind in points!!!
     

     
     
     
     
    NEVER PUT YOUR ARM IN THE WATER TO RETRIEVE A GOLF BALL!!!!!!!!!!!
     
     
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    They managed to sew his arm back on.
    He was playing golf again within 6 months!!
     
     


     
     

     
     

     

     

     

     

     
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    mokgohd@gmail.com Nov 16 07:38PM ^
     
    Very scary stuff John
    Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: "John Segoati" <john@medi.co.za>
    Sender: renaissance_golf@googlegroups.com
    Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:40:56
    To: <renaissance_golf@googlegroups.com>
    Subject: FW: What's a Golf Ball Worth ??
     

     

     
    From: Moses Semenya [mailto:moses@nomi.co.za]
    Sent: 16 November 2010 04:52 PM
    To: ayoob@skymo.co.za; mdluli@mweb.co.za; sipho.ngidi@standardbank.co.za;
    silasb@comutanet.co.za; mbuso.dlomo@gijima.com; jabulanis@indwerisk.co.za;
    'Songezo Mdluwa'; mgebesibango@yahoo.com; vnaidoo@calmanz.co.za;
    sabelo.ndabazandile@gmail.com; lindile@lmaqs.co.za; lumkilem@idc.co.za;
    zondo.sobs@vodamail.co.za; 'Sandile Luthuli'; jabum@primedia.co.za;
    john@medi.co.za; jngulube@munichre.com; mthamane@gmail.com;
    deong@mkash.co.za
    Subject: FW: What's a Golf Ball Worth ??
     

     

     
     
     
    The ball was in the pond on Hole 16 at Oak Crest Golf Club in Norway,
    Michigan.

     
     
    It was a brand new Titlelist with the Verso logo on it and he didn't want to
    loose it OR
    take the two stroke penalty as he was already behind in points!!!
     

     
     
     
     
    NEVER PUT YOUR ARM IN THE WATER TO RETRIEVE A GOLF BALL!!!!!!!!!!!
     
     
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    They managed to sew his arm back on.
    He was playing golf again within 6 months!!
     
     


     
     

     
     

     

     

     

     

     
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    <cmacheke@mweb.co.za> Nov 16 11:31AM +0200 ^
     
    Dear Rennaisance Golfers
     
    Side bets should never count in any official discussions. I have forwarded a Social Golf Club Handicap system utilised by various clubs such as Tanglewood and Callies. At any official game of Renaissance Social Golf club the captain should collect all signed score cards indicating the number strokes that the player shot Eg 97 or 82. That is then inputted into the system. After three games this will start determining your Renaissance handicap. The problem with the SAGA handicap system is that it includes games that a player plays somewhere including friendlies and the like which sometimes there can be mulligans etc or the fact that those scores were not audited. Sometimes a player shoots a low round and does not enter the score for fear that it will reduce their handicap. Once the Captain and Vice Captain of Renaissance have implemented this system there will no longer be any debates of handicaps, Finish and Klaar.
     
    Like all clubs you will have your SAGA handicap which you use for your friendlies and golf days and your Renaissance Handicap. You must remember that what you call SAGA handicap in fact is your golf club handicap such as your Dainfern Handicap. Your golf club takes all your inputted scores no matter where you played and determine your handicap. Whereas my Bryanston Golf Club handicap is 20. It may well happen that my Renaissance Handicap comes out at an 18 or a 24.
     
    I will meet with the Captain and the Vice Captain to ensure that with effect from January 2011 we implement this system.
     
    Collin Macheke
     
     
     
     
     
     
    From: Kekanah@venusafrica.co.za
    Sent:2010-11-15 18:22:56
    To: tubatsana@gmail.com
    Cc: renaissance_golf@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: INTERESTING NEWS FOR YOU
     
     
     
     
    Monareng my Friend
     

     
    Honesty must be the name of the game here. We all have to enter our scores in the SAGA system, which is the official handicap system. We have to stop deciding willy-nilly on people's handicaps. It messes their game and sometimes makes it unpleasant to play with our usual crowd. If you want to play off an 18 instead of your official 16, that is fine, but sounds unfair. If you force a particular player to play off an 18 instead of a 24, you are already putting the poor fellow at a 6 shot disadvantage. Pretty unfair!
     

     

     

     
    From SAGA website:www.saga.co.za
    Purpose of a Handicap
     
     
    As you are aware a handicap is intended to provide a means for players of unequal ability to compete on a more or less even basis. A handicap should reflect the ability of a golfer to play the game, and not the average performance. This means that more focus must be placed on a players good rounds, rather than simply applying a 10 out of 20 formula. The reality is that low-handicap golfers tend to play on - or near their handicap - with their good rounds typically being up to five strokes below their handicap. High-handicap golfers tend to have much larger variations in their scores. A high-handicap golfer may not have many rounds below handicap, but when it occurs the round may be as much as 10 strokes below handicap. All of the elements of the handicap calculation described below are designed to manage these aspects in a balanced fashion.
     
    Let us stick to the SAGA official handicap system.
     

     
    KK
     

     

     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tubatsana Monareng [mailto:tubatsana@gmail.com]
    Sent: 15 November 2010 05:52 PM
    To: Hendrick Kekana
    Cc: Malose Mokgohloa; Bernard Muneri; Ishmael Mokhoka; renaissance_golf@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: INTERESTING NEWS FOR YOU
     

     
    Yes what happened is that I didnt enter a couple score at clubs where
     
    they swap your card before you play and there was a technical problem
     
    at my club and i wasnt notified of the outstandings scores and as a
     
    default a score of 72 was allocated and it messed up my handicap.
     
    Nevertheless I am comfortable playing at 18 and my goal is to start
     
    the new year on 16 and therefore not manipulating this handicap down
     
    but trying to match it. I am of the opionion that we shoudnt allow
     
    anyone who has been playing golf for at least 18 months to play with
     
    any handicap higher than an 18 but people should be pressurised to
     
    play and match the 18 handicap. Maybe the Renaissance handicap
     
    committee should have a session and review all member's handicap and
     
    give each individual a handicap target for the 1 January 2011. It is
     
    about time we put pressure on ourselves to improve our golf just like
     
    at school where you cannot continously count from 1-10 every year.
     

     
    Regards,
     
    Tubs
     

     
    On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Hendrick Kekana
     
    wrote:
     

     

    Sabata Mahao <sabata.mahao@gmail.com> Nov 16 08:59AM +0200 ^
     
    It was on this fine day, sometime in the mid 60s (presumably) that he was
    born. The great folks of Mokhokas decided to call him Ishmael....
    A very Happy Birthday lekgowa ....may you see many more!!!!

     

    "Malose Mokgohloa" <Malose.Mokgohloa@eskom.co.za> Nov 16 09:26AM +0200 ^
     
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    Happy Birthday Mr Mokhoka we can't wait for a sushi party served from a tray!
     
     
     
    >>> Sabata Mahao <sabata.mahao@gmail.com> 11/16/10 9:00 AM >>>
     
    It was on this fine day, sometime in the mid 60s (presumably) that he was
     
    born. The great folks of Mokhokas decided to call him Ishmael....
     
    A very Happy Birthday lekgowa ....may you see many more!!!!
     
     
     
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    Tubatsana Monareng <tubatsana@gmail.com> Nov 16 10:53AM +0200 ^
     
    No sushi should be served from naked bodies. Happy birthday to you and
    many more returns
     
    On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:26 AM, Malose Mokgohloa

     

    <cmacheke@mweb.co.za> Nov 16 10:40AM +0200 ^
     
    Dear Lehaiwa
     
    I have noted your email and am lost. I don't know what you are talking about. For the record I was invited by the Callies Golf club President. He requested me to extend the invitation to the Charity Golf Day to the Rennaisance golfers. I did execatly that.
     
    You are under no obligation to participate as this is A vouluntary charity event. Nobody has actually said they need your money as your email suggest. Before you use a public platform to make wild allegations you should take a moment , step back and consider whether is it really necessary to fuel fires unnecessarily?
     
    Regards
     
    Collin Macheke

     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    From: chippandenga@gmail.com
    Sent:2010-11-11 15:44:35
    To: cmacheke@mweb.co.za;renaissance_golf@googlegroups.com
    Cc:
    Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: Golf day inv
     
     
     
     
     
    Its interesting that when people need your money the invitation is suddenly not selective?
     
     
     
    Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!From: Sender: renaissance_golf@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 15:35:05 +0200To: renaissance_golf@googlegroups.comSubject: Fwd: FW: Golf day inv
     
     
     
    Dear All
     
    The president of Callies Social Golf Club Renaissance golfers to one of his charity golf days at Zwaartkop next Thursday 18 November. Please confirm your attendance with me so that we can confirm four balls. This Ladies and gentlemen is for a good course. It works out to R500,00 per head and includes golf shirt, halfway, dinner and prizes.
     
    I will coordinate the Rennaisance four balls. Please confirm with me and make the payment directly to the school. You can email me the deposit slip on cmacheke@mweb.co.za or fax to 0866352513.
     
    Please confirm your handicap and Golf Shirt Size.
     
    See attachement for details. Deadline for registration by me is Monday at 10h00 am.
     
    Regards
     
     
    Confirmed already are
     
    1. Collin Macheke
    2. KK Kekana
    3. Elias Borole
    5.
    6.
    7.
    8.
    9.
    10
    11
    12
     
    I am looking foward to see some of you there.
     
    Regards
     
     
     
    To: cmacheke@mweb.co.za
    Cc:
    Subject:FW: Golf day inv
     
     
    Good Morning,
     

     
    Attached the golf invitation for Springvale Primary School's annual Golf Day. We hope to see you at our annual golf day.
     

     
    Kind Regards
     

     
    Shongwe Ndhlabole
     

     
    Michelle Rogers.
     
    PRO
     
    Springvale Primary School
     
    083 299 6223

     

    Lehaiwa Machaba <chippandenga@gmail.com> Nov 16 10:51AM +0200 ^
     
    Don't be so sensitive Mr. Macheke. The comment was meant to be huMorous. I
    am well aware that I am under no obligation, that is a mute point, not worth
    making.
     
    Frankly, I think YOU are making a mountain out of a mole and starting fires
    where none exists. Unless of course, there are fires that I am unaware of.
     
    Take a chill pill and relax.
     
     
     

     

    "Tubatsana Monareng" <Tubatsana.Monareng@sita.co.za> Nov 16 10:49AM +0200 ^
     
    .

     

    "Ishmael Mokhoka" <imokhoka@mweb.co.za> Nov 16 09:20AM +0200 ^
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Dina [mailto:dina@jvdm.co.za]
    Sent: 15 November 2010 03:24 PM
    To: jrmonageng@sanlam4u.co.za; Helen.Malaka@vodacom.co.za;
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    Cc: abe@masiloattorneys.co.za; mailbackup@plumbum.co.za
    Subject: FW: Scanned Document
     
     
    Dumelang,
     
    Please see attached letter and see if you can support our church. Please
    forward to others who you think might be interested.
     
    Your "buy-in" will be highly appreciated.
     
    Regards
    Dina

     

    "Ishmael Mokhoka" <imokhoka@mweb.co.za> Nov 16 09:16AM +0200 ^
     
    I single out Sebesho because there was money involved. I also hear The
    Honourable Mr Monareng is a 16 handicap.
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Bernard Muneri [mailto:KhathuBernardMuneri@flysaa.com]
    Sent: 15 November 2010 01:45 PM
    To: Malose Mokgohloa; Ishmael Mokhoka; 'Hendrick Kekana'
    Cc: renaissance_golf@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: INTERESTING NEWS FOR YOU
     
    Why do have to single-out Mr.KG Sebesho.
     
    He was playing with the two doctors, the man was on fire on the 4 holes
    until he switched on to play with John & Bev.
     
    They managed to slow down his performance rate and he was so dizzy on the
    back 9 and managed to grab and smash 12 points.

     
     
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Malose Mokgohloa [mailto:Malose.Mokgohloa@eskom.co.za]
    Sent: 15 November 2010 01:28 PM
    To: Bernard Muneri; Ishmael Mokhoka; 'Hendrick Kekana'
    Cc: renaissance_golf@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: INTERESTING NEWS FOR YOU
     
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    No disgrace whatsoever, you were aware of the 16 handicap before tee off, so
    you had 18 holes to make up the numbers with birdies! to be fair I think 12
    is not his handicap, 15 / 16 is the most suitable for him, we don't want him
    to run away from golf.
     
     
     
    Shap
     
     
     
    >>> "Ishmael Mokhoka" <imokhoka@mweb.co.za> 2010/11/15 12:43 PM >>>
     
    Disgrace and daylight, at Waterkloof on Friday he played of 16 and beating
     
    Kg Sebesho by two shots.
     
     
     

     
     
     
    _____
     
     
     
    From: Hendrick Kekana [mailto:Kekanah@venusafrica.co.za]
     
    Sent: 15 November 2010 11:22 AM
     
    To: BernardMuneri@flysaa.com
     
    Subject: INTERESTING NEWS FOR YOU
     
     
     

     
     
     

     
     
     
     
     
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